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I think I'll do Millson again. There's a lot of info there, in which I'm interested; and I only absorbed some of it the first time. Plus I think Mark Joron is one of the best guides I've encountered in many states and provinces. I want to ask him about the Greenhouse Girls. Debbie didn't say she and Jack were coming to Millson, so we'll need someone who remembers the formal latin name for Jack Pine. Also John and Jaana won't be there, so we'll need someone who knows the difference between a pottiputki and a hoedad.

I did the underground mine tour the first year. I agree with the other posters here, that it's a must for first time ST convention goers.

I've not seen Cedar Meadows, but I have seen most of those animals in their natural environment on my trips to Alaska, Colorado, Wyoming, and other places. Just got back from Colorado and some great photo ops of bull elk in velvet. Also saw a couple herds of antelope, male mule deer in velvet, and if you can believe it, a herd of camels, among other things.

My itinerary etc. from the STC was here when the Postal Service restarted my mail after the 2 week hold I'd requested.

And with the price of gas going higher every day, maybe the money saved by riding the STC bus from Toronto, instead of driving my own vehicle, is the big surprise Tracy has been teasing us about.


Bob A,

I know that I'm doing the forestry tour again. Not sure which one Jack will do this time. The Jack Pine is call a Banksianna (sp?) Pine. Our friend Erich, from Washington state, renamed my husband Jack that after the first convention and has called him that ever sinse. :)

See ya in a couple days!!! WE HAVING A PARTY!!! (but we are inviting more that two)

Last year Jack went on the Cedar Meadows tour and now this year we are staying there! I guess our room has a two person hot tub, and fireplace - to that party we will however only invite two - Jack and I!! :wink:

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I did the underground mine tour the first year. I agree with the other posters here, that it's a must for first time ST convention goers.


And with the price of gas going higher every day, maybe the money saved by riding the STC bus from Toronto, instead of driving my own vehicle, is the big surprise Tracy has been teasing us about.


Nah, I think I know Tracy well enough to say she was mighty pleased a few days ago about something, so I suspect I am "nailed to the floor" again.

There seems no limit to what Shania's little helpers, or us Fans can achieve as far as I can see. So go for it gang, walk the walk, talk the talk and take the dream ticket and call the Centre today. Contact info is on this site!

Club 147 are pretty excited about us visiting them Thursday the 18th I can tell you. Photo's here soon.


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I don't mind people visiting club 147 so long as I can still smell the odor of burning plastic when people visit our gift shop. I love the smell of burning credit cards... :)

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Hi Debbie,

Nice to hear from you again.

As you may already know, Mark Joron's definition of Pinus Banksianna in 2003, his asking for a volunteer to remember that name for our group (your husband became the volunteer) and Jack's member name of Banksianna on the Boards, were the reason for my earlier comment. However I didn't remember that Erich was the source of Jack getting that name. btw, Erich's last name is the same as my grandmother's maiden name. She was Prussian. I've talked with Erich about that a couple yrs ago, and seemed like the possibility of us being distant relatives did exist.

Seems like Jack Pine was also the main tree seedling planted in the Timmins area.

One day, I saw Benjamin (Corran) post something along the lines of getting an acorn from a tree planted by Shania's family, in the forests ("bush") outside Timmins, or seeing the trees that grew from acorns she planted. I thought that would be unlikely, because they planted pine, probably Jack Pine. But then a month or two ago, I was perusing Millson's website. And was surprised that they do handle deciduous trees as well as conifers. So Ben is "off the hook", at least tentatively.

My guess is that Millson receives, processes and stores pine cones and tree seed pods from many communities throughout North America. But they definitely stated during our tour in '03, that they usually only send out for planting, certified seeds or seedlings for the type of tree that will grow naturally in a given area. I don't remember there being many hardwoods, especially oaks in the Timmins area. I have seen pictures of lots of maples in fall color down around Huntsville and Deerhurst. But that's a 5 hour drive south. Farther north by Timmins and Cochrane, there might be birch and poplar mixed in with the pines. Frank Roch might be a good source on this. He lives out west of Timmins a ways. Despite his social lumps from Tracy, he's surprisingly knowledgeable about some things.

Are you all "read up" on Deerhurst, Debbie? I posted quite a bit of info about that on the Boards and Forums. I confess that my recent trip to Colorado, has dimmed my memory of what I'd known about Deerhurst, and my age has dimmed some of the rest. Maybe it'll be fun to watch the Deerhurst reps resurrect the info I had been thinking about, not to mention things even I didn't know about.

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to seeing the results of what has kept you so quiet on the ST mb's the past few months. I noticed your mention of recently finishing a cross stitch for the auction. You've certainly added something very special to the group with your artwork, not to mention your pleasant personality.

Ah, well you won't have to worry about me invading your hot tub party for two. I've never been in one of those, nor known enough about them to want to. I'll leave that to connoisseurs like you and Jack.

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I don't mind people visiting club 147 so long as I can still smell the odor of burning plastic when people visit our gift shop. I love the smell of burning credit cards... :)

Ren


And Ren...don't forget the relished sound of Ka-Ching !

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Bob A wrote:
Hi Debbie,

Nice to hear from you again.

As you may already know, Mark Joron's definition of Pinus Banksianna in 2003, his asking for a volunteer to remember that name for our group (your husband became the volunteer) and Jack's member name of Banksianna on the Boards, were the reason for my earlier comment. However I didn't remember that Erich was the source of Jack getting that name. btw, Erich's last name is the same as my grandmother's maiden name. She was Prussian. I've talked with Erich about that a couple yrs ago, and seemed like the possibility of us being distant relatives did exist.

Seems like Jack Pine was also the main tree seedling planted in the Timmins area.

One day, I saw Benjamin (Corran) post something along the lines of getting an acorn from a tree planted by Shania's family, in the forests ("bush") outside Timmins, or seeing the trees that grew from acorns she planted. I thought that would be unlikely, because they planted pine, probably Jack Pine. But then a month or two ago, I was perusing Millson's website. And was surprised that they do handle deciduous trees as well as conifers. So Ben is "off the hook", at least tentatively.

My guess is that Millson receives, processes and stores pine cones and tree seed pods from many communities throughout North America. But they definitely stated during our tour in '03, that they usually only send out for planting, certified seeds or seedlings for the type of tree that will grow naturally in a given area. I don't remember there being many hardwoods, especially oaks in the Timmins area. I have seen pictures of lots of maples in fall color down around Huntsville and Deerhurst. But that's a 5 hour drive south. Farther north by Timmins and Cochrane, there might be birch and poplar mixed in with the pines. Frank Roch might be a good source on this. He lives out west of Timmins a ways. Despite his social lumps from Tracy, he's surprisingly knowledgeable about some things.

Are you all "read up" on Deerhurst, Debbie? I posted quite a bit of info about that on the Boards and Forums. I confess that my recent trip to Colorado, has dimmed my memory of what I'd known about Deerhurst, and my age has dimmed some of the rest. Maybe it'll be fun to watch the Deerhurst reps resurrect the info I had been thinking about, not to mention things even I didn't know about.

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to seeing the results of what has kept you so quiet on the ST mb's the past few months. I noticed your mention of recently finishing a cross stitch for the auction. You've certainly added something very special to the group with your artwork, not to mention your pleasant personality.

Ah, well you won't have to worry about me invading your hot tub party for two. I've never been in one of those, nor known enough about them to want to. I'll leave that to connoisseurs like you and Jack.

Bob


Bob,

The cross-stitch I mentioned is for the STNAOFC annual charity (normally Kid's Cafe) auction that takes plade around Shania's birthday. This auction is held through E-bay. However, I will be bringing the stitch to the fan con. so everyone can see it in person.

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debbie wrote:

Bob,

The cross-stitch I mentioned is for the STNAOFC annual charity (normally Kid's Cafe) auction that takes plade around Shania's birthday. This auction is held through E-bay. However, I will be bringing the stitch to the fan con. so everyone can see it in person.


Thanks for the clarification.


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I don't mind people visiting club 147 so long as I can still smell the odor of burning plastic when people visit our gift shop. I love the smell of burning credit cards... :)

Ren


Oh no problem there Ren, 'cause as you know Shania Fans are all Tea Total ;) but with all the bottled drinks priced at only $2.50c I can not see a problem there.

I think even YOU will be shocked at the Gift shop sales next week :D


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Got my Itinaray yesterday - the postman was rather unerved as I pounced on him :lol:

But (and dont judge ALL brits on my own insane standards) I was actually more excited with the envelope!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, I know it was just a brown, A4 standard everyday envelope, but with a very special difference................. It has "The City of Timmins" stamped on the top left corner!! :D :D

Little things - Little Minds! :wink:

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Cedar Meadows: This is a really great tour for children and animal lovers. You'll see many Canadian wildife, including Moose, Elk, Bison and others....all from a hay wagon pulled by a tractor in the wilderness. Great photo op's and you'll be really close to the wildlife


Richard, have you ever done the Cedar Meadows ride thingy?

I was going to go with the Gold Mine, but then Shelley pointed out that we have both been in caves / mines, and whilst the Gold Mine is a lil different and sounds totaly awesome, neither of us have seen Moose or Elk etc and so now I am in a HUGE dilemma :? :lol:

I think we are probably going to go with the wildlife but just wanted a second opinion :wink:

ps. looking forward to having a longer chat with you this vist :D

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The Ceder Medows Wildlife tour is Awesome, but so is the Gold Mine tour, so you do have a difficult choice. For first Time visitors to Timmins I think the Gold Mine tour would give you a stronger idea of what the City is all about as it was Gold that founded the whole place.

Then you can come back the following year and do the Ceder Medows wildlife tour ;) or better still come back any old time and see us. Simple really.


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Chicker if you like/love animals then Cedar Meadows is for you. I did that one last year and I am doing it again this year. I have done the Gold Mine and found it interesting, but I was frozen half way thru and couldn't feel my feet. Also, I don't have problems with bats but if anyone does out there, just a heads up, I got dive-bombed a few times! There may also be time to do both if you are taking the bus, as after the brunch on Sunday, you''ll have the whole day and could do the tour then. I'm not sure but I think the STC card you get when you arrive may get you into the Gold Mine Tour as well............someone can clarify that for me if I'm wrong. BTW this is Lyn (Brit) not Frenchy, she didn't log out before I came on and I'm taking the lazy route today in between trying not to pack my entire wardrobe!

Look forward to meeting you!

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Bob A wrote:
Seems like Jack Pine was also the main tree seedling planted in the Timmins area.

One day, I saw Benjamin (Corran) post something along the lines of getting an acorn from a tree planted by Shania's family, in the forests ("bush") outside Timmins, or seeing the trees that grew from acorns she planted. I thought that would be unlikely, because they planted pine, probably Jack Pine. But then a month or two ago, I was perusing Millson's website. And was surprised that they do handle deciduous trees as well as conifers. So Ben is "off the hook", at least tentatively.

My guess is that Millson receives, processes and stores pine cones and tree seed pods from many communities throughout North America. But they definitely stated during our tour in '03, that they usually only send out for planting, certified seeds or seedlings for the type of tree that will grow naturally in a given area. I don't remember there being many hardwoods, especially oaks in the Timmins area. I have seen pictures of lots of maples in fall color down around Huntsville and Deerhurst. But that's a 5 hour drive south. Farther north by Timmins and Cochrane, there might be birch and poplar mixed in with the pines. Frank Roch might be a good source on this. He lives out west of Timmins a ways. Despite his social lumps from Tracy, he's surprisingly knowledgeable about some things.


Bob


Being a gardener I found the Millson tour fascinating. What struck me is that they grow seedlings not just for areas around Timmins but for a wide area. I don't remember how wide an area but I know they send seedlings all over Ontario. Now, Ontario has a wide variety of climates and growing conditions. So if preparing seedlings for Eastern Ontario for example, they use seeds only from Eastern Ontario. They never try to send seedlings from seeds developed over millenia in a given area to any other area. The seedlings are always specific to the area they are sending them.

I noticed that the Timmins area has a very limited number of deciduous trees. I don't think I saw any maples, beeches or oaks up there. These are all very common here and in Muskoka.

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Got my Itinaray yesterday - the postman was rather unerved as I pounced on him :lol:

But (and dont judge ALL brits on my own insane standards) I was actually more excited with the envelope!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, I know it was just a brown, A4 standard everyday envelope, but with a very special difference................. It has "The City of Timmins" stamped on the top left corner!! :D :D

Little things - Little Minds! :wink:



I'm with you Chicker. Anytime I get an envelope that says "City of Timmins" on it I get butterflies in my stomach. :D

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Lyn, thank you for your post - my mind is now made up......... i'm doing the Gold Mine :lol: KIDDING!!!!

Looks like your gonna have company on that Hay Wagon :wink:

Hey Debbie.... glad I'm not alone in the mad, mad world of Shania-Memorabilia (sp?) :lol: and I know for dang-sure that i will be picking up one or two small pieces on my way around Timmins 8)

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